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Autistic People and Narcissists

A practical thread on autistic politeness, narcissistic pressure, and social danger.

Autistic people don't have the "this is a dangerous person" response to narcissists they usually take their insane behavior seriously for years until they realize something may be wrong, it's why narcissists crash out so hard at older autists with more life exp, not easy targets


Peak adult autistic experience is narcissistic people crashing out when you just poke their buttons a little bit and by "poke buttons" I simply mean standing your ground when they try and get you to care about something that makes absolutely no sense to anyone who isn't a newt


The most annoying thing that narcissists do when interacting with autists is constantly try to get the autist to emotionally feel the same way about whatever it is they're mad about, younger autists may do this to be polite and non-confrontational, this fuels the delusions


They'll use all sorts of social shaming measures to insist that you need to be as emotionally charged about this thing that personally upset them that has nothing to do with you, the fact that you don't particularly care is nuclear level abuse to the narcissist


This is WHY younger more naive autists so often hang out and are strung along by narcissists because they're just being polite to the narcissist who takes their chivalry as an act of submission and total agreement, when they realize your being polite—narc meltdown


This dynamic can literally go on for YEARS without the narcissist realizing that the autist is just placating their emotional temper tantrums because that's the polite thing to do with friends, in their mind you're totally submissive to them


The Achilles Heel of every narcissist is someone who 1, cannot be emotionally blackmailed and 2, is polite and pro-social enough to not tell the truth to the emotionally disregulated crazy person they're talking to

It makes them realize the truth, they're not clever but crazy


I was diagnosed with autism as a child and was mute up until I was about 7, I've spent a lot of my life just being a good listener to very obviously crazy narcissistic people, what made me different from non-autists is that I was the only one that put up with it, bc autism


Non-autistic people don't really tolerate narcissism and it reads as far more "schizo" than actual schizophrenia because it masquerades as something pro-social and empathetic "this person is acting distressed we need to show them empathy" but happens repeatedly as a pattern


A normal person will tolerate one meltdown and assume it was a real justified psychotic emotional breakdown triggered by something rational, but by the second or third they've already distanced themselves enough that they're completely protected, they recognize the threat


Autistic people don't have this protective social script because they don't intuitively understand social norms, so they take the crazy repetitive narc emotional abuse at face value, this is why narcissists love autists so much, autists take their concerns seriously


This is why you'll so often see a narc and an autist in LGBTQ e-relationships, the narc can lash out and be as abusive as they want as long as they have a logical justified reason for why they're behaving that way, the autist will simply sigh and say "Ya I guess that makes sense"


For anyone trapped in this cycle, if someone in your life is trying to guilt you regularly into feeling a way that you don't actually feel, or regularly lashing out at you and blaming you for it, you need to get away from that person asap

Just ask "would a normie tolerate this?"


Every autist needs to have a terribly neurotypical person in their life to ground them in reality and they need to anchor reality around them, the most plain normal risk avoidant person you can think of, he needs to be a patron saint you can confide in, he'll tell you whats norm